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Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:41 am
by rossdaboss
Guys, I don't post here much at all (I used to back in the day), I'm just a lurker really... But something's on my heart and I'm going to spill it.

Isn't it time for Petra (each and every era) to hang it up and call it a day once and for all?

Now look, they are my fave band of all time, and their music, along with many other band's music, has deeply impacted my life. So don't get me wrong, I'm not a petra hater. I'm just a concerned fan. There's a few factors: one is the fact that there simply isn't much interest anymore. It's a fact. Christian rock is pretty much dead and it doesn't seem like anyone cares for yet another petra reunion with just two recognizable Petra faces (I love Greg, don't get me wrong).

But, sadly that leads me to my real point. Petra =John and Bob. Bob can still stand there and shread the same old songs ( and same ol solo) just fine, but guys... John has completely lost it. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. A studio can help him sound okay, but live?.. It's bad. I just watched some video from the MN show and it was awful, this didn't sound like petra! I know John is an amazing man of God and Greater Cause was a killer record.. But seeing him front Petra lately is rough. He could barely finish "he came he saw"...

Again, I'm their biggest fan!! But with a 63 year old front man who just doesn't have the range and endurance anymore to perform a legendary Petra set, it's almost embarrassing to see them try to come back again. I know I'll be tarred and feathered for this, but I'm just trying to be real. Unless a new group of musicians with a passion for Christ, and a passion for Petra's decades old catalog wants to take over... It is time for our heros to hang it up...

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:13 am
by zman7720000
Agreed!

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:23 am
by executioner
Disagree!!!

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:00 pm
by trodLAN
John has completely lost it.
You're actually lying. Check things more carefully before you speak next time.
I have a lot of evidence against your statements.

What if I said you have complete lost your driving skills?

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:34 pm
by p-freak
Ever since the end of the Farewell tour, I feel like John has had trouble hitting the high notes live occasionally. Unfortunately the recent He Came, He Saw video was one example. But I don't think you can draw these conclusions based on just this one song. If the whole set would've been like this, then you might have a point, but we just don't know. I think they're still strong enough to keep going, but I do see your point.

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:09 pm
by trodLAN
I have many hours of video bootleg recordings from April when John was in Norway this year.
He still can hit most of the high notes, but he can also miss many of them. It helps if he had had practised a lot.
He did a really good gig in Eiken, but struggled a bit the second night. The third night he was much better again.
It's incredible how strong his voice still is. And I like his voice better now than 20 years ago - to be honest!
My personal taste! The last two concert I posted in complete form was from Kvinesdal, Norway and Mariager, Denmark.
Listen to these shows, they prove John still has it! http://www.johnwschlitt.com/fans/video4.htm

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:28 pm
by rexreed
No they should not hang it up. Remember when they tried that eight years ago? There is still more music to be had in the group known as Petra.

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:31 pm
by notunderground
John Schlitt Trio: Lovely Lord - Live from Eiken, Norway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Q5y5XX9DY
"John has completely lost it."
Not necessarily! Anybody can have an off day as human experience will testify. Maybe John wasn't feeling well so when you saw him and he didn't fulfill the expectations that you've become accustomed to, you assumed the worst that he "completely lost it" and you are "quick" to throw him under the bus! Why don't you give him a chance instead of assuming the negative?!? John is just a human being! You need to pray for him! Stop your criticisms! Some of you "Petra fans" eat your own! Stop jumping to conclusions before you know all the facts! You need to give him the benefit of the doubt!

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:39 pm
by Shell
Guys, it is just someone's opinion; don't get rattled over it. I don't think he is deliberately trying to be critical. He makes it pretty clear Petra means a lot to him. I don't agree with him on everything, but I think he's given some thought to what he's saying, and there may be people who feel the same way (although I'm not one of them).

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:46 pm
by executioner
notunderground wrote:John Schlitt Trio: Lovely Lord - Live from Eiken, Norway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2Q5y5XX9DY
"John has completely lost it."
Not necessarily! Anybody can have an off day as human experience will testify. Maybe John wasn't feeling well so when you saw him and he didn't fulfill the expectations that you've become accustomed to, you assumed the worst that he "completely lost it" and you are "quick" to throw him under the bus! Why don't you give him a chance instead of assuming the negative?!? John is just a human being! You need to pray for him! Stop your criticisms! Some of you "Petra fans" eat your own! Stop jumping to conclusions before you know all the facts! You need to give him the benefit of the doubt!

Sounds like he still has it too me; that voice gives me chills!!!

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:48 pm
by executioner
trodLAN wrote:I have many hours of video bootleg recordings from April when John was in Norway this year.
He still can hit most of the high notes, but he can also miss many of them. It helps if he had had practised a lot.
He did a really good gig in Eiken, but struggled a bit the second night. The third night he was much better again.
It's incredible how strong his voice still is. And I like his voice better now than 20 years ago - to be honest!
My personal taste! The last two concert I posted in complete form was from Kvinesdal, Norway and Mariager, Denmark.
Listen to these shows, they prove John still has it! http://www.johnwschlitt.com/fans/video4.htm

You and me are on the same wave length because I love his voice more today than I ever have.

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:44 pm
by petraman
He can still sing but he was better 20 years ago, now you wanna hear someone that can't sing anymore check out Paul Stanley of Kiss.

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:15 pm
by Shell
petraman wrote:He can still sing but he was better 20 years ago, now you wanna hear someone that can't sing anymore check out Paul Stanley of Kiss.
That would apply to ANY Kiss member. :lol:

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:54 pm
by executioner
Shell wrote:
petraman wrote:He can still sing but he was better 20 years ago, now you wanna hear someone that can't sing anymore check out Paul Stanley of Kiss.
That would apply to ANY Kiss member. :lol:
KISS never had anything IMO!!!

Re: Time to hang it up?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:48 am
by mikey32187
rexreed wrote:No they should not hang it up. Remember when they tried that eight years ago? There is still more music to be had in the group known as Petra.
How can you say that when they have been doing the JAH tour for the past eight year???