Re: A New Version of "Classic Petra"
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:24 pm
Without saying much, I think I'm pretty sure it was Slick's decision not to let them use his songs.
He had a real job right before he left. The guy is a genius. He began working for New England Digital, developing and selling synclavier synths. Then he got ino IT, doing heavy duty save the planet type stuff. Synclavier was part of the end of his tenure. There is a story that goes along side of this, and I would drop it. Whatever you speculate is the reason ain't the reason.dihigo wrote:More than likely, Slick got a "real job." I live in Nashville and know many "starving artists" with families to feed. Christian music is a hard road financially (especially when you are a pioneer paving the way for others). Like in The Godfather, Slick was probably made him an offer he couldn't refuse (with benefits) and never looked back. I've heard Bob say that in the early days, all the members worked side jobs. That, I'm sure, gets old real quick while on tour.brent wrote:I would put money on Slick "sticking' it to the man" more than wanting to cut ties with CCM.
So I did a little digging and found John Slick's LinkedIn page. Among his many accomplishments over the years, he lists "Rock Star" at the start of his professional career with what seems to be a made-up company called, "Vaco JUG." He then writes, "I was responsible for asking too many questions." That's interesting. "Vaco" is Latin for "empty." Empty jug. Hmm...I think I'm beginning to connect the dots here.brent wrote:He had a real job right before he left. The guy is a genious. He began working for New England Digital, developing and selling synclavier synths. Then he got ino IT, doing heavy duty save the planet type stuff. Synclavier was part of the end of his tenure. There is a story that goes along side of this, and I would drop it. Whatever you speculate is the reason ain't the reason.dihigo wrote:More than likely, Slick got a "real job." I live in Nashville and know many "starving artists" with families to feed. Christian music is a hard road financially (especially when you are a pioneer paving the way for others). Like in The Godfather, Slick was probably made him an offer he couldn't refuse (with benefits) and never looked back. I've heard Bob say that in the early days, all the members worked side jobs. That, I'm sure, gets old real quick while on tour.brent wrote:I would put money on Slick "sticking' it to the man" more than wanting to cut ties with CCM.
Hey, I just found a II Guys from Petra video where John sings "Why Should the Father Bother?". The song begins @ 47:42.dihigo wrote:Finally, someone's willing to play!
Hey, never say never. Some folks said (on this very forum) that Louie Weaver & John Schlitt would never play together on the same stage again!pmal wrote:Not that this would ever happen...
First of all, I think the only songs that would be selected for this hypothetical project would be songs written by Bob (with exception to "God Gave Rock and Roll to You.") Case in point, all the songs on Back to the Rock were written by Bob with exception to "Let Everything That Hath Breath (Praise the Lord)" and "Back to the Rock" which were written by Greg X. Volz, who was, at the time, in the newly reunited band.
Secondly, I wouldn't be opposed to hearing John sing a few GXV songs. After all, John has been singing "Judas' Kiss," "It Is Finished," and "Beat the System" for many years now.
That being said, here's are the songs I'd like to see on the list:
- Get Back to the Bible
Holy Ghost Power
Why Should the Father Bother?
Storm Comin'
Yahweh Love
Where Can I Go
Walkin' in the Light
God Gave Rock and Roll to You
Taste and See
Backslidin' Blues
Come and Join Us
Gonna Fly Away
FACTSvarious users wrote:
- 1) I know for a fact that... Mark & Greg wanted to include "Not By Sight" but Bob couldn't get the rights to it.
- 2) ... Slick wasn't willing to let them use it for less than a certain amount of $$...
- 3) ...Slick didn't want to let them use it at all, which would fit with the way he has avoided claiming his Petra history.
- 4) The other subject between Slick and Petra I don't think is a personal dispute just that Slick wants nothing to do with the CCM machine...
I didn't know anything about that, so maybe there really was talk of using Not By Sight, but having no access permissions.brent wrote: I have stated here many times that Mr Greene (former EMI CCM attorney who handled leasing assets) told me EMI owned everything from the Star Song days, and had most of the pressing masters.
jmslick wrote:I didn't know anything about that, so maybe there really was talk of using Not By Sight, but having no access permissions.brent wrote: I have stated here many times that Mr Greene (former EMI CCM attorney who handled leasing assets) told me EMI owned everything from the Star Song days, and had most of the pressing masters.
Thanks for the info.
That's the down side of signing songs to a publisher. You never have any further control, other than to pitch the song yourself, when the publisher is not. In mid-80's I co-wrote a ballad and signed it with MTM publishing here in Trashville. After a while, I took a tape of the song over to the engineer who was recording a new Ronnie Milsap album. We checked back later, and he said "It's a great song, but we already cut all our slow songs." Maybe he was just being polite, but that song would have been a perfect Milsap ballad. That's the last I ever heard of it. Although, I recently noticed a Vince Gill song (Nobody Answers) which was similar. I guess my song idea was not so unique anyway.executioner wrote:jmslick wrote:I didn't know anything about that, so maybe there really was talk of using Not By Sight, but having no access permissions.brent wrote: I have stated here many times that Mr Greene (former EMI CCM attorney who handled leasing assets) told me EMI owned everything from the Star Song days, and had most of the pressing masters.
Thanks for the info.
Yeah its true, but they had no access to the song; I'm not sure who had/has rights but for some reason its was either denied or just too much trouble to get it done.